TRANSCRIPT: INTERVIEW BY FOX-TV WITH CLINTON
(Middle East, U.S. elections, domestic issues)
August 1, 2000
President Clinton says he believes there will be a peace agreement between the
Israelis and the Palestinians.
"If they want it, they can get it, because they're close enough now. They can
get it," Clinton said in a July 31 interview with a Fox Television reporter.
Asked if he thinks there will be peace in the region, and if Jerusalem is the
most difficult issue, he responded:
"Yes, I think there will be peace in the region; yes, Jerusalem is the most
difficult issue. They did not agree on everything else. But they're close
enough that I think that we can still get an agreement."
But he noted that "the calendar is working against them a little bit, because
they have pledged to finish by the 13th of September. And that puts all kind of
pressure, especially on the Palestinians. So they've got to keep working right
now. They've got to do everything they can to get as much as they can done over
the next six weeks."
Clinton said he would do everything he could "to get the peace process up and
going and to bring it to a speedy conclusion."
The President also discussed domestic policy, the U.S. Presidential campaign,
his future plans, his wife's Senate campaign, and their daughter's decision to
take time off from college to spend more time with them.
Following is the White House transcript:
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THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
(Tampa, Florida)
July 31, 2000
INTERVIEW OF THE PRESIDENT BY KELLY RING OF FOX TELEVISION
Hyatt Regency Westshore
Tampa, Florida
3:30 P.M. EDT
Q: First of all, let's talk about why you came. And that's Medicare and you
know -- I mean, this is something that's been important to you for a long time -
- getting Medicare part of the prescription drug program included in Medicare.
Talk about why that is so important to have that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, Medicare is a program that's 35 years old, and it's been a
godsend for 35 years for a lot of our seniors. But when it was established,
most of medicine was about doctors and hospitals, and very little about
prescription drugs. Now, the average 65-year-old has a life expectancy of 82 or
83 years -- the highest in the world for seniors. And more and more, people
need these drugs to stay alive and also to stay healthy.
Over and above that, America has about 5 million people on disability who are
eligible for Medicare and they need the medicine even more. So what we have
been saying is, look, we've got this surplus, we have the money, we should add a
voluntary prescription drug benefit to Medicare, because we have, all over
America, seniors who are choosing every week between food and medicine because
they can't pay their medical bills, and because there is no other viable way to
give them the medicine they need.
So I proposed this program, and I told the American people how we can add a
prescription drug benefit to Medicare, still have a family tax cut, still invest
in education and keep paying us out of debt. I think that it is so critical to
provide for the elderly and disabled in America.
Q: Do you think it will happen before you leave office?
THE PRESIDENT: I just don't know. I think the problem is, the Republicans in
the Congress believe that the program might be too expensive, although it's not
nearly as expensive as their combined tax cuts, and they want -- they, also,
want a private insurance plan. But the bill they passed is just like one that
got passed in Nevada, and not a single insurance company would offer the drug
coverage because they knew they couldn't offer it at an affordable price. So
the plan they passed is unworkable.
Now, what's really going on here is that the pharmaceutical companies that make
the drugs, they have reservations about it because they're afraid that if you
put 39 million seniors, including 2.7 million seniors in Florida and 5 million
disabled people, if you look at all of them and a significant percentage of them
get in one program, that the people buying drugs for that one program will have
too much marketing power and they'll get the drugs for too cheap.
Because what happens is, our pharmaceutical companies charge Americans more for
drugs to cover all the research costs in America; then they can sell them much,
much cheaper in Canada or Mexico. You've seen all these press stories about
people going there.
Now, I just think that's not a very good reason to deprive senior citizens of
medicine, and I don't think it's a partisan issue outside Washington. I think
out here in Tampa or in Arkansas or New York or California, nobody asks you what
party you're in when you go to the drugstore to buy medicine. In Washington,
it's become part of an issue because the drug companies are against providing
prescription drug coverage for Medicare. It doesn't sound reasonable, but it's
true.
Q: Let's talk about the importance of Florida for this presidential election.
I know that you know how important Florida is. We have a Republican governor --
popular. His brother is running; but tell me what the Democrats are going to do
to win Florida. Do you think they can?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, absolutely. For one thing, I think we've worked very hard
here for eight years. We brought the Southern Command to Miami, we brought the
Summit of the Americas to Florida. We worked on the plan to save the Florida
Everglades. We have worked on trade policy. Our trade policy has helped a lot
of Florida economic sectors.
I was just here with Congressman Davis meeting with people from the Tampa area
who would benefit greatly from the opening of trade to China. So I think we've
got a strong record to run on. If you look at Tampa; when I became President,
unemployment here was 7.1 percent; now, it's 2.7 percent. So, first we're going
to run on our record.
It's been good for America and good for Florida, and Al Gore will continue that
economic policy, and I think that's important. Then, the second thing I think
is just what we have to do is get out the differences on the issues. For
example, Senator Graham has a bill of his own to provide prescription drugs for
seniors that is a little different from ours, but essentially in the same
ballpark. And I know how much credibility he has with the Florida voters. So
we can talk about Medicare and we can talk about education, and we can talk
about paying the debt off.
I think when you see the Vice President and his running mate and -- Bill Nelson
and all of these other Democrats out there, just having a conversation with the
people. We don't have to have a mean election this year. This year, the
economy is in great shape, the country is doing well, and we ought to have an
old-fashioned citizenship lesson in this election. We ought to say, here are the
differences, you choose.
Q: And it's like you said in the speech a little while ago. You're talking
about the differences; the Democrats are, but the Republicans aren't. Elaborate
a little bit on that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think it's because they know that there is a tendency in
the country to give the other crowd a chance after they've been out a while, and
they know that Governor Bush is an immensely charming, attractive man, and Mr.
Cheney, Congressman Cheney is a very nice man and has had Washington experience.
So what they want to do is to seem safe and reliable and compassionate and
inclusive, so they're not going to be up there saying vote for us, our favorite
Supreme Court judges are Justice Thomas and Justice Scalia and we're going to
repeal Roe v. Wade, but that's what's going to happen. But they're not going to
say that. They're not going to be up there saying, vote for us, we want to
weaken air pollution laws on the chemical industry; or, vote for us; we want to
make sure that we don't have a Medicare prescription drug program that works; or
vote for us, we're going to give all your money away in tax cuts and we'll have
higher interest rates and a deficit.
But what I think is important is, they should be able to defend their policies,
but what they want to do is to obscure the differences. I see this as I travel
from state to state now, they accuse the Democrats of running negative campaigns
if they have advertisements pointing out how the Republicans voted. It's like
they're almost saying, we have a right to obscure our record from the people if
you want.
What I think the voters need is clarity of difference. There are honest
differences between these candidates. Let them state the differences honestly,
but don't pretend the differences don't exist. Because an election is a choice,
and choices have consequences. And the American people should know the choice,
know the consequences and then make up their mind.
And there are real differences -- on economic policy, on health care policy, on
crime policy, on environmental policy, on policies relating to civil rights and
individual liberty. Profound differences -- not just between the Vice President
and Governor Bush, but between these candidates for Senate -- in this case, Bill
Nelson and his opponent here.
Right around the country -- and what we should do is to say, hey, this country
is in great shape now. And we have a unique moment in history to make the most
of our prosperity. So we'll bring our ideas, they'll bring theirs, let's
clarify the differences, let's don't say bad things about our opponents. Let's
assume everybody is patriotic, loves their family, loves their country, is
honest and would do what they have said they would do.
But let's don't pretend that they didn't say they would do some of the things
they said they would do. Let's just clarify the differences and let the people
make their mind up. That's my whole theory of the election.
Q: Sounds pretty good. But let me ask you: Now that you're in the last few
months of your presidency, your wife is just beginning her own political career.
THE PRESIDENT: I'm very proud of her.
Q: I know you are so proud of her. But on the other side, politics is mean
-spirited. How do you feel about that?
THE PRESIDENT: It hurts me -- I get more nervous about her than I ever did
about me, and everybody that always hated me all those years and were so mean to
me, they've all transferred all their anger to her now. It's almost as if
they've got one last chance to beat me. And then there are some people who
voted for me that think they're mad at her because she's running in New York and
we just bought a home there.
All I can say to them is, it wasn't her idea. The New York Democratic House
Delegation came to her and asked her to run; and before she said she would do it,
she said, I'm going to go up there and look around, talk to people and see if I
could serve. She spent almost a year doing that and then finally she decided
that she would like to serve if they wanted her to.
So I think if we can get this election again in a position where they just look
at who's got the greatest strength, who's got the ability to do more and which
candidate do they agree, I think she'll do fine. I'm really proud of her,
though. It's a really brave thing to do.
Q: It certainly is. As you said, it makes you very nervous thinking about what
she's getting into.
THE PRESIDENT: I guess when you're in a campaign, you don't have time to think
about it. But I spend a lot more time worrying about her than I ever did
worrying about myself when I was out there running. I feel like I just wake up
every day wishing I could do something else to help.
Q: What are you going to do when you leave office? Everybody's talked about
all kinds of things, and I know you probably haven't decided yet. I mean,
everything --
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm going to build a library and a public policy center at
home in Arkansas; I know I'm going to do that. And I'll be there a couple of
days a week. And then I'll probably be with Hillary a couple of days a week in
New York. And then, of course, she'll have to work in Washington if this
election goes well -- and I believe it will -- so I'll just decide what to do.
There are a lot of things that I have in mind to do, but I don't think I really
should make final decisions until after I leave here. What I want to do is to
spend every last waking moment I can doing as much as I can for the people of
America. And that's what this job is.
When I lay the job down, then I would like to rest a bit and have a clear head
and decide what to do. I'll try to find something to do to be useful for the
rest of my life. I think I'll be able to find something to do.
Q: You're so young, so you've got so many opportunities. You've got to be so
proud of your daughter, Chelsea. I mean, we reported last week she's made a
decision to take a break and spend time with you. That's wonderful -- and to
help her mom campaign.
THE PRESIDENT: It's wonderful. When your children grow up -- I can say, now
that I have this experience -- you're always mildly surprised when they still
want to spend time with you, and completely relieved and happy. So, you know,
she's lived 40 percent of her life in the White House. She's 20, and she was
just, when we came here in '92, she was still 12 years old. She was actually --
I mean, in '93 she was still 12 years old. She had her 13th birthday in the
White House, in February.
So she's been here for 40 percent of her life, and she's got more credits than
she needs to graduate from college, and she told me that she was interested in
doing three things. She wanted to help her mother some, she wanted to be with
me when I would otherwise be alone, and -- like, she went up to Camp David with
me and stayed the whole 15 days and kept everybody in a good humor.
She flew to Okinawa with me and she did a great job. And I think the third
thing she wants is just to be in a place that has been her home for nearly half
her life, every night she can be, because she knows when she leaves, it's for
good, you know, and she'll never be back, I mean, as a resident. So I think it's
a very smart decision for her, and I'm thrilled.
Q: Because I'm sure you must be, because here she was just a young girl and now
she's a young woman. It's been so wonderful. I mean, everybody's fallen in
love with her. She's just a very special person.
THE PRESIDENT: I think she's an unusual young woman, and we're very proud of
her, and very grateful. And I think it's great. You know, tomorrow, she and
her mother are going to Long Island together. They'll have a big time. I think
it's great.
Q: One more -- can I ask about Mideast peace, because I know how important that
is. You spent three tough weeks. Do you ever foresee a time when there is
going to be peace in the region, and is Jerusalem the sticking point there?
THE PRESIDENT: The answer to both questions is basically yes. I think -- yes,
I think there will be peace in the region; yes, Jerusalem is the most difficult
issue. They did not agree on everything else. But they're close enough that I
think that we can still get an agreement.
Just a few hours ago, before we sat down for this interview, the Barak
government, Prime Minister Barak's government in Israel was confirmed in a no
confidence vote; that is, they didn't vote him out of office. So I think now,
we just have to see if we can get some movement from the Palestinians as well
and see if we can put this thing together again.
If they want it, they can get it, because they're close enough now. They can get
it. And I saw something after we had been there two weeks -- sort of the body
language that the Israelis and the Palestinians, the way they relate to each
other. They know each other. They call each other by their first names. They
know their neighbors, whether they like it or not. They know their future is
together, whether they would always want it to be or not. And they know their
children are going to have to be partners, and hopefully friends; and I think
they'll find a way. I do believe that.
I think it's just a question of making sure that we keep pushing them. When you
deal with issues this difficult and this painful, it's like going to the dentist
without having your gums deadened. You're not going to do it unless somebody
herds you on and you do it.
But the calendar is working against them a little bit, because they have pledged
to finish by the 13th of September. And that puts all kind of pressure,
especially on the Palestinians. So they've got to keep working right now.
They've got to do everything they can to get as much as they can done over the
next six weeks.
I think they will, and America's role is just to help. They've got to make the
decisions and live with them; but we'll do everything we can to help.
Q: Will you try to bring them back to Camp David?
THE PRESIDENT: I can't say yet. It's too premature to make a decision. What I
will try to do is do whatever I can to get the peace process up and going and to
bring it to a speedy conclusion. But I do not know, honestly do not know, as we
sit here and talk, what would be the most helpful. Thanks.
Q: Thank you very much for doing this.
THE PRESIDENT: Okay.
END 3:47 P.M. EDT
(End transcript)
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